In a debate moderated by TIMES NOW's Editor-in-Chief Arnab Goswami, panelists -- Ahmed Raza Kasuri, Sr Advocate, SC, Major General (Retd) Rashid Qureshi, Former Spokesperson to Musharraf; Mahroof Raza, Strategic Affairs Analyst; and Mahesh Jethmalani, Sr Lawyer & Leader, BJP -- discuss the issue whether an ex-ISI chief handle a terrorist like Tunda without the complicity of the Pakistan government, and if PM Manmohan Singh should still meet Pakisan PM Nawaz Sharif if Pakisan does not hand over ex-ISI chief Hamid Gul to India.Former Pak Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) head Hamid Gul today rubbished LeT leader Abdul Karim Tunda's accusation that the spy chief was his handler, saying that they had never met. "He (Tunda) is lying. There is no truth in his claims. I have never met him," Gul said. Tunda, arrested by Delhi Police on the India-Nepal border on Friday, has reportedly told interrogators that he was once handled by Gul, who headed the ISI during 1987-89. Asked why Tunda would have alleged that he had been the terrorist's handler, Gul said, "My name is very familiar in India, it sells very well in India. (Maybe) it's the most familiar name that occurred to Tunda." Gul, who was accused of backing jihadi groups in J&K and Afghanistan while heading the ISI, claimed he had no links with the intelligence set-up or mujahideen now. Gul, 76, sought to give the impression that the recent killing of 5 Indian soldiers along the LoC was the handiwork of mujahideen. India has accused Pak troops of killing the 5 soldiers during an attack on the Indian side of the LoC. Tunda, one of India's 20 most-wanted terrorists, has reportedly said he met Gul in 1995 and was in touch with him over the years. India has often accused the ISI of backing terrorism against it, a charge denied by Pak. Tunda has also said he was in regular touch with JuD chief Hafiz Muhammad Saeed, the alleged mastermind of the Mumbai attacks.